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“What…. happened?”

February 3rd, 2010


Hazel has been waiting her whole life for this.

Dude.

- is Sayid still Sayid?
- if Jack fixes Locke in their It Worked Life I am going to FLIP. MY. SHIT.

That’s all I can think about at the moment.

Posted in lost on February 3rd, 2010 at 1:01 am
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38 responses

  1. emily comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 1:03 am

    Also: Desmond. Discuss.

    Parallel universes that he, for some reason, can hop between?

  2. mario comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 8:09 am

    I don’t think Desmond can hop between parallel universes (don’t know why he would develop that new power) but that would be cool. Couldn’t it just have been him on the plane?

  3. adrian comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 8:12 am

    nuts, that quote wasn’t even on my list.

    and that little dharma changing table shirt is awesome.

    I think sayid is still himself, because there was no way for the monster (give us a name, dammit!) to get in there.

    and my theory is that it’s more like one universe in a quantum superposition in which it both did *and* didn’t happen. (except there’s no cat.) and desmond pops in and out of existence in various times and places like an electron.

  4. mario comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 8:22 am

    I think Emily is referring to the fact that Sayid may be Jacob.

  5. Kelly S for Strautmann comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 8:51 am

    Did Desmond “disappear” off the plane when the bomb went off and now he ceases to exist in the new 2004???

    I’m thinking/hoping Sayid is now Jacob. The note in the case said that it would be bad for all of them if they did not save Sayid.

  6. mario comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 9:03 am

    All I know is one big, IMPORTANT thing.

    …..I never want to see Mike in that sweatshirt again. ugh.

  7. jmi comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 9:26 am

    About the sweatshirt: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I will be laughing all day about it.

    I totally think that Sayid is now Jacob.

    I didn’t like the whole guitar-case-breaking-open-the-symbol-thing…

    I had lots of mild attacks…. pretty much any time we saw someone we haven’t seen in a while.

    Loved it.

    Loved it.

    Loved it.

    I would completely believe that Desmond can hop between them. I go back to Pops’ comment about five years ago: “I think Desmond is going to be the key to everything…”

    Zach and Emma!!

    My favorite comment of the night came from my friend Kelly: “Oh, man, I forgot that Jin used to be a dick…”

  8. mario comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 9:46 am

    Saddest thing to come out of this LA X. Desmond probably never met Penny (if Penny is alive).

  9. adrian comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 10:17 am

    oh…you think jacob might be possessing sayid?

  10. Emily comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 11:37 am

    Yeah – I’m wondering if Sayid is Jacob, because “they had to save Sayid” for everyone’s sake, supposedly, but then so coldly said “your friend is dead” like that wasn’t a big deal. But Mikey pointed out that this isn’t a good parallel story because the bad guy didn’t possess John Locke’s current body, he just… made a new one?

    Something else – the whole ride home from Doug & Virginia’s I was thinking about Bernard and Rose, for some reason, and how everyone (including me) thinks they are Adam & Eve, and wondering about the black and white stones in the pouch on their bodies and then wondering about the “one is light, the other is dark” theme in general, and the obvious (about them) finally dawned on me………….. one of them IS light, and the other IS dark. duh.

    I think Desmond could just be on the plane, but then why disappear? It doesn’t necessarily have to be a “power” that he has all of a sudden. Doesn’t quantum physics say that parallel universes are like swiss cheese and every once in awhile the holes line up and you can pass through, maybe without effort? If he WAS just on the plane, I don’t think the bomb would have knocked him out of existence… if he was on the plane it was because the bomb worked and there was no hatch, no dharma, nothing… the bomb didn’t go off DURING the flight, it still went off in the ’70s and just altered everything. But I was freaking out about the Penny thing too. Although if there is no island there is no race around the world and he never leaves her? Maybe? Still conceived in the ’50s, but her parents take totally different paths in life (not centered around the island) and she never even meets Desmond? :(

    I HATE old Jin. HATRED.

  11. mario comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 11:40 am

    still conceived in the 50s??? How old do you think Penny is?? I’m wondering if she was ever conceived at all!

  12. Emily comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 11:46 am

    Oh sorry, not Penny, I’m thinking Faraday – either conceived on island (um… older than he looks?) or after they leave, but if they don’t have the island in common do they stay together?

  13. Emily comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 11:47 am

    (and yeah… if Widmore’s life no longer revolves around the island, what does he even do? Does Penny exist?)

  14. adrian comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 11:47 am

    yeah, I don’t think we’ve seen jacob possess anyone *or* take the form of anyone else, have we? always been the monster. but that doesn’t mean this can’t be the first time. (after all, jacob hasn’t been dead before.)

    I don’t think desmond was a passenger on the flight. (meaning, I don’t think he got on the plane in sidney and got off in LA.) I think he just appeared and disappeared, and I assume it’s connected to his unstuckness-in-time, which I think is a separate matter from the bomb altering the timeline or not.

  15. mario comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 11:50 am

    Wouldn’t Widmore and Eloise and Faraday be dead? The bomb went off when they were on the island. They would have died in 1977.

    And Desmond’s unstuckness in time was always mental. His body didn’t physically jump around. Unless they’ve changed that.

  16. mario comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 11:51 am

    Faraday was in Eloise’s belly in 1977.

  17. Emily comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 11:52 am

    Another thing to Ponder – *if* “black” took over Locke’s being (?) and Jacob took over Sayid’s, does that have anything to do with THEM or was it just an available body? Because traditionally Sayid has been the “bad guy” (killing people, torturing, etc.) and Locke was the innocent / victim / etc…. if it was deliberate, I reallllllllllllly wonder why and it makes me super-sad for Locke. I almost lost it when Locke2 told Ben what was going through Locke’s head when he died.

    The body that we have always seen Jacob in could just be a body, too. He doesn’t seem too human.

    All things point to Jacob as savior (died and resurrected, possibly, for an obvious starter), but I’m not convinced yet. I can’t figure out the him-showing-up-in-everyone’s-past stuff. The instances don’t seem consistent.

  18. Emily comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 11:54 am

    You’re probably right – I couldn’t remember what year it was when we saw her kill Faraday/her pregnant.

    The bomb didn’t kill any of THEM, though. It blew Kate up in a tree (uh, dumb). Maybe they are in some other plane of existence, too.

  19. mario comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 11:57 am

    I understand that our main Losties (Kate, Sawyer, Jack, etc.) were blown through time again back to 2007 in our original timeline, but the people who were naturally on the Island all would have died in the explosion in the Plane Landing safely timeline. Hence, no Widmore, Eloise, Faraday, Ben(?) in the new timeline.

  20. Kelly S for Strautmann comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 12:01 pm

    If Jacob knew what was going to happen (he would be killed) and when, then he had to show up in everyone’s past to get them there so he COULD take Sayid’s body.

    He needed everyone he “touched” in the past to make it happen. Jack couldn’t go forth with Faraday’s plan without Kate’s approval; Hurely needed to bring the note and take them all to the temple; Jin knew where the temple was; Jack had to drop the bomb; and Sayid needed to have his wife killed to start the chain of events that forced him to come back. Why Sawyer?

  21. Emily comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 12:01 pm

    Lostpedia trivia points out the people that don’t show up on the It Worked Flight – people who died. Ana Lucia, Shannon, Michael…

    and some subtle details between it and the original flight. One tiny vodka for Jack instead of two, etc.

  22. mario comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    Boone died but he showed up on the flight.

  23. Emily comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    Maybe Sawyer is not in Sidney if he doesn’t write the letter?

  24. Emily comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    So did Arzt.

  25. Emily comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    Ana, Shannon, and Michael were murdered?

  26. mario comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    huh? Sawyer was on the flight.

  27. Emily comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    Sorry – responding to Kelly. Maybe that’s why Jacob shows up and gives Sawyer the pen, because he has to finish the letter and let his life follow trying to deliver it.

  28. mario comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    Shannon wasn’t on the flight because the actress couldn’t work it out with her schedule.

  29. Kelly S for Strautmann comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    And Emily, you would understand how hard it is now for me to see my favorite character, Locke, as an evil person! It’s so hard!

  30. Emily comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    I knowwwwwwwwwwww. OOf.

  31. mario comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    A friend of mine pointed out to me on Twitter that Hugo is wearing a red shirt. Shit.

  32. mario comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    Locke is not evil. Locke is dead on the ground. The Man in Black is evil. He just looks like Locke. Keep telling yourself that, Kelly.

  33. Kelly S for Strautmann comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    Explain your red shirt comment more, Mario.

  34. mario comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    Kelly – It’s a Star Trek/pop culture reference. Usually anyone wearing a red shirt will die.

    Past references on Lost include: In one episode, Sawyer picked up a red shirt and asked “Whose shirt is this?”, Frogurt responded that it was his, foreshadowing his death.

    Boone talked about “redshirts” in Season 1.

    The makers of Lost have a connection or two to the Star Trek franchise. ;)

  35. Kelly S for Strautmann comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    Juliet was wearing a red shirt.

  36. M.O.M. comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    I don’t understand one thing that any of you just wrote. Something tells me that someday I’ll have to rent the DVDs to this seemingly nutty show. :) M.O.M.

  37. jess comments:
    February 3rd, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    lalalalalalalala. i won’t read…i won’t read…i won’t read…just scroll to the bottom of all the comments with my ears plugged and my eyes closed!

  38. Emily comments:
    February 5th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    dudes, I totally abandoned this discussion because we got nine houseguests. Sorry.

    MOM – no need, your children own all of them :)

    (well, not season five – eventually)

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